Funny blog posted that mentioned this: Club Conspiracy
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- http://www.hoise.com/vmw/04/articles/vmw/LV-VM-11-04-29.html
- specially designed plate called a multi-electrode array and a common desktop computer
- When Professor DeMarse first puts the neurons in the dish, they look like little more than grains of sand sprinkled in water. However, individual neurons soon begin to extend microscopic lines toward each other, making connections that represent neural processes. "You see one extend a process, pull it back, extend it out, and it may do that a couple of times, just sampling who's next to it, until over time the connectivity starts to establish itself", he stated. "The brain is getting its network to the point where it's a live computation device."
- With Jose Principe, a UF distinguished professor of electrical engineering and director of UF's Computational NeuroEngineering Laboratory, Thomas DeMarse has a $500.000 National Science Foundation grant to create a mathematical model that reproduces how the neurons compute.
- "Brain" in Dish Flies Simulated Fighter Jet
- The 25,000 cells sit atop a grid of 60 electrodes, which is just one and a half millimeters (six-hundredths of an inch) wide.... "These electrodes allow us to literally listen to the 'conversations' among the neurons to find out how they are computing," DeMarse said. "By sending in [~admin:electronic] pulses to each electrode, we can also stimulate the network in 60 different locations."
- "The neurons will analyze data from the computer, like whether the plane is flying level or is tilted to one side," DeMarse said. "The neurons respond by sending signals to the plane's controls to alter the flight path. New information is sent back to the neurons, creating a feedback system."

My questions 
"So you hook it up and the aircraft simply drifts randomly. And as the data comes in, it slowly modifies the (neural) network so over time, the network gradually learns to fly the aircraft." Although the brain currently is able to control the pitch and roll of the simulated aircraft in weather conditions ranging from blue skies to stormy, hurricane-force winds, the underlying goal is a more fundamental understanding of how neurons interact...
Said one commentator:
But beyond all that, it really can fly that F-22 fighter jet. Or perhaps more accurately, it can keep the aircraft on course in all kinds of weather, acting as an autopilot as it corrects any change in the plane's course.
And the brain in the dish learns how to do that in an amazingly short period of time.
"Usually, within 10 to 15 minutes, it's pretty much flying the plane," DeMarse says.
- Why should the neural network "want" to fly the plane level? Anyone who has watched a six year on a car simulator will see how much they love to crash the car simulator! Somehow the feedback loops of letting them play longer, or see new terain, or wanting to go very fast, eventually gets them to spend more time driving than crashing.
- How does the "brain" get feedback it cares about? In real brains, the feedback is often via "feel-good" hormones.
- http://www.wireheading.com/misc/artificial-brain.html - With list of related articles
- http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/DyeHard/story?id=198839&page=1
- DeMarse's rat neurons aren't about to take over the universe. In fact, they can't even remember how to fly that aircraft for more than about 15 minutes, so they're no threat.
- But how do the neurons learn how to fly the thing? That's done by electrical pulses into the dish through one of the electrodes. That in effect tells the neurons when they are doing the right thing to keep the plane on course. High frequency, or rapid pulses, stimulate the neurons and enhance the connections between them.
- Simply put, by stimulating the neurons the researchers tell them they're on the right track, so they continue to adjust the plane's elevator to keep it from plunging toward the ground during a downdraft, for example. When the plane levels off, the simulator reduces the frequency of the pulses, and the neurons back off from that control surface, allowing the plane to remain on course.
- It all sounds very complex, but DeMarse says it's actually a very simple experiment, and he hopes to change that. The experiment currently uses only two electrodes to send and receive signals, and the brain of a mammal uses many avenues, or sensors, to do what it has to do to survive.
Other similar experiments and projects
- (Sometimes in 2004 or before) At Georgia Tech, researchers used 2,000 rat brain cells to create what they called a hybrid robot, or Hybrot, part digital computer and part living brain. A researcher at Duke University monitored the brain signals of a monkey as it moved, then used those signals to operate a robotic arm.
- Hugo deGaris, who spearheaded Japan's program to develop the famous robot kitty, and who is now heading a similar project at Utah State University, believes that this century may bring "massively intelligent machines with intellectual capacities many times greater than those of human beings."
Other articles:
- Harvard Brain Bank Faces Shortage of "Normal" Brains
- Since its founding in 1978, the bank has collected almost 6,000 brains. Every year it receives about 240 diseased brains but only 30 normal brains.
- The ideal normal brain, according to Benes, comes from an individual without a history of head trauma, seizure, dementia, delirium, or drug or alcohol abuse. This normal tissue serves as a basis for comparison.
- Harvard Brain Bank

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Anonymous
Great questions. I hope I can answer them. First I must apologize if you find my answer boring. Since I don't know you I had to answer it as simple as possible without using too many technical concepts. My background is in Computers and Biomedical Engineering with some research work on brain signals. My experiments involved live animals such as cats and monkeys but none-the-less involved brain signal collection, analysis and correlation.
About your questions, I'll try to answer to the best of knowledge. You are right as far as the rat brain not really flying the F22. It simply has no concept of flying, airplane or anything else for that matter. However, those cells only know that they are in contact with other brain cells of their own kind and they communicate to each other by sending tiny pulses. The researcher simply took a recording of those signals and hypothized it to be the "steady state pulse" or normal state of those cells when they are undisturbed. When everything is going well for them (in that dish at least) they produce those signals. If then something goes wrong and a different pulse is introduced in the media, the steady state is interrupted and the cells will try to send signals to the source in order to bring things back to normal. This is a natural reaction known as negative feedback.
The researcher used this principle to achieve his task. He programmed his computer to generate the steady signal when the plane is flying nice and level. He then programmed the computer to generate various pulses that were different from the steady state pulse in several different flying situations and when the plane is not flying level. He then studied the reactions/feedback pulses he got back from the cells when he inputed those varying pulses into the dish. By recognizing and isolating the cell's responses he was able to then reprogram the computer to take those feedbacks as the appropriate "correctional" measures to bring back the plane to fly level, thus forcing the computer to generate the steady state signal.
After several trials and errors he was able to fine tune things. The end result is what we all saw in the video. The brain cells have no idea that they are flying or playing a game or what. All they know is that a foreign signal, different from the steady state signal, is being inputed in their environment. What the main observation and the main point of the whole finding was, is that the cells quickly learned that by making certain type of feedback pulse they were able to bring back the steady state pulse in their environment once again.
In reality, an actual brain is far more complicated as you know. First of all there are millions of millions more cells and second they receive many signals through all different sources such as eyes, ears, tongue, skin, etc, not to mention memory and learning experiences stored. An actual brain feels and reacts differently in different regions at different times and ages.
For example a child/infant can learn through experience that touching a hot plate is very painful. If you hand him a hot plate he will drop it. However if you hand the same hot plate to an adult, the adult will run over to the nearest table or counter top to place the plate safely. Both bodies and brains felt the same pain from the hot plate but one was able to overcome its natural reaction and further process the situation and perform a different and more advanced function that is more desirable despite the pain.
In your own example you mentioned studies have shown that children enjoy crashing driving simulators into walls than driving them straight. This is again due to the fact that our brain is far more complicated than we think it is. Remember that the experiment was conducted with only 25000 brain cells taken from one tiny area of the rat's Cortex. This creates a fairly limited functioning "pseudo-brain" capable of only simple tasks, meaning reacting in a certain way to certain signals in order to establish what it likes without interference from any other brain cells who might like to react differently and may have a different steady state signal that it does. Kind of like the infant's brain telling him to drop the plate.
I hope I was able to answer some of your questions.
Max.
Feb 15, 2009
garnet
Thanks very much for the great explanations, everything makes sense! I don't have formal education in biology or chemistry or neurology beyond high school, but when I was in grade school I was already reading university level texts in these subjects....
So the brain cells are being used in a way that is similar to how a Programmable Array Logic chip might be used. Wonder how many PAL gates would be required to mimic this behavior? Of course a lot has to do with the form of the inputs. If the PAL had to recognize the different pattern bursts, it could be difficult. But if there were binary inputs to the PAL, it would be easier. So the main issue is the difference in inputs, binary vs. waveform based analog.
Some more musings about Cats, Brains, and Breed Based Behaviour Differences
Jan 10, 2012
Anonymous
Thanks alot - your answer solved all my problems after sevrael days struggling